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HellenicNavy789 #1 Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:36 PM

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Since we're going to open beta from 22 february i thought it could be a really good i dea to add an 500% or more bonus unit xp free xp and silver per battle

Kingnikolaj #2 Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:42 PM

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since you claim it would be a good idea I would really like to hear the reasoning behind your statement

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View PostKingnikolaj, on 07 February 2018 - 04:42 PM, said:

since you claim it would be a good idea I would really like to hear the reasoning behind your statement

 Everything will expire in a couple of weeks 

 



WipeoutVasusu #4 Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:58 PM

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P.S. didn't thought about the 500 gold for each tx 

Kingnikolaj #5 Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:02 PM

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View PostWipeoutVasusu, on 07 February 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

 Everything will expire in a couple of weeks 

 

 

why not just give everyone t10 and maxed out units? If people just can blaze through units they'll have no idea how each unit works who it skills works and it will just be people on the forum that unit X is to weak and the others are to strong, etc. etc. People should still play normally... They are even giving people +200% on the dailys plus +50% for playing in parties

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Paganwitch #6 Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:54 PM

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well thsi game is doomed to fail .. look at xp need to lvl up ..  you rly think someone is ager play 1K battle  with one type unti to get tier X?

when gaame elase tere wwont be so much bonuses to xp etc..
there is how many 14 type of units? so 14K battles? and when thy add new one? 
this is exactly why world of tank  if fail game becosue thy progres system  and thy made exact same mistake here.



macpla_EU #7 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:24 PM

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Paganwitch: naturally you have to have all units on max tier X lvl, with zero or a little of an effort as possible....

 

It took me around 430 battles to get to tier X commander and unit (I played just one type) with a win ratio 50%. So it is still way less than 1k per Xtier unit. 

 

Stop weeping. If you are not ready or eager to 'earn' X tier unit by progress and time, you can always accelerate it by gold. Play with your premium units and acquire XP which later you will convert for your beloved tier X. 

 

Also If you worry about wipe. Simply do not play up to it and then start from scratch (this wipe afaik is the last one). 


Edited by macpla_EU, 07 February 2018 - 09:26 PM.


Kingnikolaj #8 Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:50 PM

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View PostPaganwitch, on 07 February 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

well thsi game is doomed to fail .. look at xp need to lvl up ..  you rly think someone is ager play 1K battle  with one type unti to get tier X?

when gaame elase tere wwont be so much bonuses to xp etc..
there is how many 14 type of units? so 14K battles? and when thy add new one? 
this is exactly why world of tank  if fail game becosue thy progres system  and thy made exact same mistake here.

 

if we all sat down bashing the game before its' even out and saying it will fail.. then yes it will fail but not because of the exp needed to get to the teir but because people will spread the word about how negetive the player base and hostile

 

And you're claiming taht WoT is a failed/failing game? please....


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Paganwitch #9 Posted 07 February 2018 - 10:24 PM

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i dont basing gam i just saying what is obvius

with averge 3K exp unit per battle you just need  600 or more battles with one type of unit + there si exp diff between soem unit some re more some less.
ok if in game would be onyl 2 faction and 10 unit in total i have no problem but game count with add new one so. Is clear ppl will start bored about lvl up like idiots over and over

I am not for easy lvl up but those exp req specialy on high tier are too big
+ one more thing i total dont uderstadn why on tier X there are upgrades for unit? 
Specialy with such big exp req.. so evne on tier X iff we mathc tier X only together we never have fair battle...
There is no need for upgrade unit all up shoudl be onyl for silver at X and player shoudl chose if prf armor over speed etc. 
Same on comander when he hit tier X those "perks" shoudl be unlocked auutomaticly.. To allow player finaly enjoy game ..
Whole lvl up sytsem in curent set up is fail  and this system is about 10 year old... This concept  dont belong in modern game.. Players wish to test skill  vs equal oponent and not chasing upgrades for half year..
Not every one can paly arena 10 hours per day.
If you loook at rating hy WoT is so unpupolar its just becouse lvl up system  + soome other thinggs but thy add same lvl up here..
WHen game was dev only by CA lvl up system were far better so WG prove themself agin as fail dev.
Look at premium unit price.. look at real money price in shop ... thsi game is madde to pay to win.. Force palyer spend big amount real money to get lvl up... In curent busniess model thsi game will end in 3-5 year as fail project.


Look at other MOBA games.. and their modle look at smite look at dota2 or some  card game model..
Those game are proof than great game can be made  with minimum pay to win or pay to "progress"  etc and still you can get lot of money and profit..
There are many companies wich aare known for thei good busnies  model. liek CD project red. ANd there are comapny hatet by players for bad one  like EA with their micro transaction .
 

So look at how those money making sytsem is made and how progres system is made..  + look soem my older topic lke pool about prices in shop so i am not only one who think this all is wrong aconrding to my previus topic 80% players think this is wrong.
If you call this weeping  you are just naive and stupid.

Game is in cclosed beta and its already starting bored  for many players who just leaving game becouse of wipe and long progres.



Paganwitch #10 Posted 07 February 2018 - 10:32 PM

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View PostKingnikolaj, on 07 February 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

if we all sat down bashing the game before its' even out and saying it will fail.. then yes it will fail but not because of the exp needed to get to the teir but because people will spread the word about how negetive the player base and hostile

 

And you're claiming taht WoT is a failed/failing game? please....

 

yes WOT is fail game year after year have worst and worst rating and if i check previes in my lang aall say same "big problem microtransaction" and thy implement same model here so pls dotn make yourself idiot if you claming WOT as sucess game becouse isnt  just look at some  stats like averg online players etc if you compry this to othe games WoT itss just avege game..  Averge dosent eamn bad but definitly dosent mena sucess

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View PostPaganwitch, on 07 February 2018 - 11:32 PM, said:

 

yes WOT is fail game year after year have worst and worst rating and if i check previes in my lang aall say same "big problem microtransaction" and thy implement same model here so pls dotn make yourself idiot if you claming WOT as sucess game becouse isnt  just look at some  stats like averg online players etc if you compry this to othe games WoT itss just avege game..  Averge dosent eamn bad but definitly dosent mena sucess

All free to play games got microtransactions. It's normal for games like wot to gain a lot of players and then lose them only to get new players later on, circle off online games/free to play games, I mean just look at wow they lose players all the time just to get them back when a new expansion comes out. And do you really think wg could get a band like sabaton to have one off their official music videos to one of their most famous songs be a wot music video?

 

And take your insult and use it somewhere 


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Paganwitch #12 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:10 AM

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Wot get band like sabaton becouse thy sing somgs about WW2 and military thsi have nothing to do with game.

i just sy whole lvl up system is set totaly wrong..
+ yes micro transction are normal  but there is not normal when ultimate bundle cost 100E you get soem gol few prem unit and 30 prem day.  Its joke..  If you get all prem unit for this prize ok but this?
If you think its normal price ur totaly wrong.
AAA title new game cost from 50-60 Euro  you think TW arena its AAA title?   Dont make me laugh pls..  + thy ofer onyl some  items and unit in game for those prize if thy maadde cost like for 150 E we will give you all curent and future prem unit   ok its big cost but its worth bu  this?
And there is whole problem . lvl up + shop. Wich mad ethis game only for some kind of rich players an normal playrl need take year to get lvl up... This is big problem and it ill be in future.
Its problem becouse 2 comapny wish to make profit.. when game was on steam prize in shop and unit were normal becouse it was onyl under CA .. WG is killing thsi game since  start 

And about WOW.. well ok 1 month in wow cost liek one premium motnh in arena..  I dont think you can comapre those 2 games WOW is much lvl higher with lot more fun


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macpla_EU #13 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:11 AM

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Paganwitch please don't measure all ppl the same scoop. 

 

We probably origin from a different epoch since for you leveling is the most important UX for the game.

Why you HAVE to HAVE all units unlocked ? Why just not enjoy a gameplay by playing smart and tactical (which is this game all about) and not just trying to win by abusing mechanic (being more geared, than smart). 

 

I like that it would take me months to unlock all units. The only reason why I enjoy playing on high tiers is because in general players are more skilled and experience than they one on the low tiers.

 

Making such game is a huge effort in terms of time and money (you still have maintain servers and payload). This game is FREE 2 PLAY, but they still have to have revenue from it. Perhaps one day you understand that everything cost. So please GROW UP. 

 

If you don't like it. Stop play. Noone forces you to be here and waste your time on this game.


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macpla_EU #14 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:30 AM

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Also most unit progress trees have branches so you can exchange/swap unit types (so it is not true that you are forced to progress from 1 - 10 per each).

Paganwitch #15 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:43 AM

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no you arent force but this dont change fact progres and prizes for gol and prem unit are made bad..
if ou wish play in cln and take game seriusly you will need to unlock tier X i dount there wll be some rnaked ply or esport for tier  5

 

about economy pay server etc.. well seams you haev no clue about how econom work and becouse i were made few topics  about it i wont repeat it agin you cna find it on forum..
making mony andd profit diosent mean you set up insame price for gold prem unit etc.  By doing so you losing real money instead profiting


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Paganwitch #16 Posted 08 February 2018 - 12:57 AM

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http://forum.totalwa...um-shop-prizes/

here is what i said 80% players think prices in shops are high ..
 unlike you i have proof on ym side + economicla education so pls stop talking nonsence about  how comapny must make prices high becouse thy pay for server unkeep etc... Becouse its not true

Truth is you msut pay fo such things but  by making prices balance you  let morre players afford it = more money you get. ANd becouse there is no think liek material creat  becouse  once you made prem unit each one you sell its just digital copy and cost of his copy is 0..   Real value of each prem unit its time to spend on creating   so e.g. prem unit cost company  500Euro

so  everything what you need to do is just set prices to get those 500 E  and it dosent matter if you sell 1 milion copies or  5000 becouse  rela value will be alwaays 500E it wont grow up you are not  shoes maker you dotn pay for leather.. so you



macpla_EU #17 Posted 08 February 2018 - 03:55 AM

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Well, even you do not have to pay for materials you still have to pay for  a graphic designer, software developer, quality engineer and tester time, marketing department, facilities, taxes, infrastructure and  so many other things. If you as a company want to make a profit and extend your company resources you still have to get extra money for new hires and pay employees even when you don't have nothing to do. The game is design in a such a way that premium units suppose to be not OP to their tier counterparts, and since you don't have to purchase them, what is your problem?

 

I never said that CA/WG have to make price so high, just that this is not a voluntary institution and they have to generate profit. I bet they have a whole bunch of ppl which sense market and base of it feedback decide how much things might cost.

 

I well I have some experience about this market and software engineering. 

 

And yeah I don't know your understanding of economy but from what you say and what arguments you use I can take some shortcuts and make some assumptions. In short I would change tone If I were you. After all if you don't like 'nike' shoes you can always go and buy addidas one. If you don't like TWA, you can always play another title which offers the similar mechanics and fun, right ?* 

 

*oh wait there is any other game like TWA on market which let you play 10vs10 and lead antique squads to battle ? If not - they call it monopoly, if yes - go there. 

 

I hope that in your future career you will just earn enough to fulfilling just your basic needs, since it is good enough to survive right(and not a penny more)? Who would bother to get profit from a highly demanding market or just pay extra for someone skilled.  ** 

 

Make socialism great again ! :) 

 

I play for fun, If I am having fun I will contribute some money, actually I did that. Even I've got free access to CBT I bought later starter bundle because I think that this game is fun.

 

** I am joking - I am hoping that you will be wealthy enough to buy CA and WG and be the best CEO ever. 


Edited by macpla_EU, 08 February 2018 - 03:58 AM.


PaiNzzz #18 Posted 08 February 2018 - 08:26 AM

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View Postmacpla_EU, on 07 February 2018 - 11:24 PM, said:

It took me around 430 battles to get to tier X commander and unit (I played just one type) with a win ratio 50%. So it is still way less than 1k per Xtier unit. 

 

Interesting. May I ask if you maintained a premium account, sir?

Regardless of premium account, it took ~430 battles to reach tier X or to also fully upgrade them? Those tier 10 upgrades are pretty darn expensive as far as I know, but I haven't been so high in the tiers, so I'm not talking from experience..

 

I'm not making a counter-statement or something, I'm just trying to work out the numbers here xD



macpla_EU #19 Posted 08 February 2018 - 09:29 AM

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Just to reach them, in fact I did a small lie here cause I am still missing around 50k XP to get Spartans. I had a premium account from starter pack for 30 days. I skipped some upgrades (when it was possible) and also I am not planning to update Spartans before wipe. I haven't play much in parties. In fact I was mostly enjoying gameplay and aimed for 100 victories. Then OBT was not yet... so I played, and played .... and now I am over 200 wins and so close to Spartans that I will get them and then have my life back till wipe :)

 

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How can you understand what paganwitch is writing?

 "If numbers are what matters, all Greece cannot match a small part of that army; but if courage is what counts, this number is sufficient."

 

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