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Jakerp #21 Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:28 PM

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I just tested out of curiosity it seems that one almoust fully upgraded T10 roman heavy sword when played with Fully upgraded T10 Sulla cannot win even one T7 Roman Heavy Sword who is using Germanicus vengeage. So even T7 Germanicus can broke Sulla defence and get archers behind shots against Sulla infantry.

 

I dont really like how Sulla ultimate proscription works in should work like vengeage but in the opposite direction making enemies unable to damage Sulla with melee skill unless they pull out from combat then Sulla could delay enemies or force them to pull out so archers can behind shot them. Now it works in totally opposite way Sulla have to run from everything making whole defensive gameplay pretty pointless. Sulla shoud be able to defend and delay better or then skills shoud support kiting playstyle better where Sulla have to run and pull out from almoust everything.

 

 


Edited by Jakerp, 11 February 2018 - 02:29 PM.


XIIl_DarkDusT #22 Posted 20 February 2018 - 12:25 AM

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I do at this point believe Sula doesn't need more than the smallest buff.

After seeing a little more and exploring its party potential as it is.



Shaun_Rasmussen #23 Posted 20 February 2018 - 12:45 AM

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I struggle against Sulla with Boudica falxmen.  The damage debuff is too much and I usually have to disengage.  I feel the problem may be that vengeance is too strong?

Sullatella #24 Posted 20 February 2018 - 03:39 AM

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Dont know why Jakerp talks that Sulla infantry cant handle Vercingetorix cavalry. Sulla on Palatini vs Vercingetorix Noble Horsemen, and 1 Palatini unit wins, even 2 units of Vercingetorix cav, if morale do not goes down. Plus Germanicus just must win 1v1 Sulla in melee combat, because Germanicus have only vengeance for damage, with big cooldown, without it, he cant do nothing, plus Sulla easily kites any type of vengeance. So as for me it`s fine and balanced. 
P.S. Germanicus shines 1 melee fight in 3 or 5 minutes. and Sulla shines every minute in a battle. When Germanicus clashes against other Germanicus, debuff or proscription or boudiccas rebellion makes big difference. It`s all about teamplay.

Edited by Sullatella, 20 February 2018 - 03:44 AM.


wolfiena #25 Posted 20 February 2018 - 06:53 AM

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View PostSullatella, on 19 February 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

Dont know why Jakerp talks that Sulla infantry cant handle Vercingetorix cavalry. Sulla on Palatini vs Vercingetorix Noble Horsemen, and 1 Palatini unit wins, even 2 units of Vercingetorix cav, if morale do not goes down. Plus Germanicus just must win 1v1 Sulla in melee combat, because Germanicus have only vengeance for damage, with big cooldown, without it, he cant do nothing, plus Sulla easily kites any type of vengeance. So as for me it`s fine and balanced. 
P.S. Germanicus shines 1 melee fight in 3 or 5 minutes. and Sulla shines every minute in a battle. When Germanicus clashes against other Germanicus, debuff or proscription or boudiccas rebellion makes big difference. It`s all about teamplay.

 

Well done for your first post + like here :)



Jakerp #26 Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:22 AM

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View PostSullatella, on 20 February 2018 - 03:39 AM, said:

Dont know why Jakerp talks that Sulla infantry cant handle Vercingetorix cavalry. Sulla on Palatini vs Vercingetorix Noble Horsemen, and 1 Palatini unit wins, even 2 units of Vercingetorix cav, if morale do not goes down. Plus Germanicus just must win 1v1 Sulla in melee combat, because Germanicus have only vengeance for damage, with big cooldown, without it, he cant do nothing, plus Sulla easily kites any type of vengeance. So as for me it`s fine and balanced. 
P.S. Germanicus shines 1 melee fight in 3 or 5 minutes. and Sulla shines every minute in a battle. When Germanicus clashes against other Germanicus, debuff or proscription or boudiccas rebellion makes big difference. It`s all about teamplay.

 

Yes but if there is even one archer player in other team Sulla instantly dies from behind shots when he try disangage from vengeage. As Sulla dont have testudo he constantly loses troops anyway from missile fire. Leonidas also rekt sulla easily as shield bash go trough all defences and pikes also mow sulla easily and archers finish Sulla inf with behind shot that try to run. If there is caesar around Sulla is always rekt as he cant use any skills he cant even flee or do damage as silence blocks whip and reduce speed. Javelins also always kill infantry sulla. Heavy artillery also.

 

Yeah sure while you use you proscription to make the diffrence in those vengeage vs vengeage battles even one heavy artillery rekt all Sulla infantry with pin point accurate shots as using proscription Sulla need to stay visible a long time and fairly close to enemy. As everything that Sulla have works so slowly there is plenty of time for arty shots. :D And dont forget soon coming elefants with cone based damage abilities that work like Leonidas shield bash but hits larger area. :D

 

And we can alwas organize custom battles where i play T10 vercingetorix with triple T10 cavalry and you play those 3 palatini infantry with sulla and we can see who wins every 1 vs 1 battle? :D If it is so good as you say you easily beat me everytime.


Edited by Jakerp, 20 February 2018 - 09:37 AM.






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